Last week I wrote about how you decide who to friend {and not friend} on Facebook.
Today, I want to talk about Facebook groups for bloggers.
I crowdsourced this topic on Twitter and Facebook last week. Bloggers are all over the map on how they feel about Facebook groups. Some are in four and feel that’s too many; others are in a couple and are looking for more. Some feel they’re a time suck and some find them very useful.
Lea Ann from Mommy’s Wish List said:
The Facebook groups are all so different. Vastly. Some are best practices, some are support, some are vent venues. Time suck.
Jacqui Layne said:
I was in a lot a while ago but It seemed like a lot of them were whining about not getting enough views and comments.
I’m currently a member of EIGHT (I thought it was four until I actually counted) private Facebook groups. All are blog-related. I pared this down from my high water mark of fourteen several months ago.{I know. Crazytown.}
At first, I was really excited to be a part of so many groups. I get kind of a high when I’m invited to a group, like I’ve just gotten a bid after sorority rush. But when I combine feeling flattered with my utter inability to say no to anything, I have a lethal combination.
Too many groups, not enough time, and more importantly – not enough return for the time I do put in.
So I try to pop in and contribute where I can, but ultimately I wind up feeling overwhelmed and either drop out or don’t return. Yeah, I’m the Facebook Group slacker who sits in the back row and sleeps.
I do have a couple of Facebook groups that I find incredibly valuable. They enhance my blogging instead of distracting from it – and I don’t mean traffic here – I mean learning and networking.
But others (including ones I’ve started myself) have devolved into a drone of self-promotion.
I want to note here that I am all for self-promoting your personal blog. It’s a necessary evil. I also recognize that there’s a value in having small groups of friends meet privately on Facebook to encourage and support each other with a certain level of social sharing.
My problem is that some bloggers fail to exercise any discretion when it comes to self-promoting in these groups.
If you’re in a group with over 100 members, you might *think* it’s a good idea to provide a link to every.single.blog.post you publish in that group and ask people to read and share it.
It’s NOT a good idea.
You do the math. If you’re posting 3 or 4 days a week, and so are the other 100 people in the group, and you’re all sharing every post in your Facebook group, look at how many posts are competing for each person’s attention every day. If you’re lucky, you might get a couple of people to read it, but more than likely, people will just press “like” without reading it and move on to the next. {Admit it. You’ve done it.}
There’s a law of diminishing returns that applies here, people. If you’re jumping up and down every day yelling “This post is great! Read it! Comment! Share!”, your fellow bloggers are going to stop believing you. Because no one is THAT good, EVERY day, day after day. And if you are, then you probably don’t need a damn Facebook group anyway. So when you DO write that killer post that SHOULD get 20 retweets…you’re not going to get it.
Think Boy Who Cried Wolf.
I’m much more likely to read your post shared in a Facebook group if you are selective. If you’re writing about Susie’s first soccer practice and it’s neither poignant nor hilarious nor gives me tips on how to handle my own kid’s first soccer practice, but rather, you’ve just written a play-by-play of her dribbling the ball…that’s great and all, but…I don’t want to share that. I’m sorry.
So, what are my personal rules for what makes a good Facebook group?
* Everybody wants to be there
* It’s sized so that everyone can feel she has a voice
* Participants agree on the objectives of the group and can commit to helping meet them
* A strong admin/leader who is communicative and organized
* Participants exercise discretion in requesting social sharing
* The group offers something more beyond promote, promote, promote
That’s just my two cents. I want to hear from you:
How many blogging-related Facebook groups are you in?
How many are you active in, and what makes those groups useful or valuable?
How do you feel about the level of self-promotion that goes on in Facebook groups?
Go.


















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I’m not in any. Heck, I can’t even figure out how to post as my blog self, so I”m always posting first to my page and then sharing it to the account linked to the page. Some things just mystify me and this is one of them!
Haha! Well, participating in Facebook groups is much easier than that
I was invited to some last week. I am still checking them out. One of them seemed like the people felt like they were talking with friends. The other one seemed slightly more promote-y, but not in an off-putting way.
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One or two are very easy to manage. When you get pulled into too many, it gets really difficult!
Lets be clear. I’ve been on Facebook since 2004 and I’ve seen it move through its various incarnations.
FB was much more inviting when it was about people connecting – not companies or ever alter-egos.
I was invited into a blogging group or two and left almost immediately from both the minute people started talking about numbers. Ick.
I love to write, and I would keep writing even if it were just me and my composition notebook. The fact that people actually subscribe to my blog is a gift for which I am so grateful. The people who join these groups seem to have a lot of time on their hands (or they must be wired to their electronic devices 24/7). These are not behaviors I want to model in my family.
I’ve also found the groups to be cliquey. I wasn’t interested in being in a secret club in elementary school. I’m not about to start now.
As a person who has stock in Facebook, I think people should note the value of FB is falling. People don’t have the same kind of love affair with it like they did when it first came out. Regular folks are hiding blogs if that is all you post. I’d rather keep my real life friends than network via private groups on Facebook.
Not. My. Thang.
*end rant*
Thank you for the opportunity to say it somewhere! I hate Timeline!
Tell us how you really feel
But, I get what you are saying. I’ve been on Facebook since late 2006 and it’s been interesting to watch it change and evolve. I’ve only recently come to enjoy Facebook again after a long 2 year period of hatred.
I am okay with the concept of groups for bloggers, but they definitely aren’t for everybody. I’m in one group in particular that really is valuable. What’s different about it is that it’s not my normal close group of blogging friends. The admin put together a very diverse group of women who each knew a couple of the other people, but not everybody, and each person seems to have an area of blog expertise than she can share with others. It’s been a refreshing change from promote, promote, promote.
Ah yes, I think about this often. I am in three or four groups that I highly value and consider productive–and others that are significantly less so. I could be spending time reading other people’s blogs and commenting instead of spending time in the facebook groups, and have actually been trying to spend less time on FB over the last few weeks.
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They are definitely hit and miss. It becomes hard to extract oneself, especially when friends are involved!
I’m in two groups. One is more about sharing parenting issues and getting helpful feedback and the other is a very supportive blogging group, which requires time and energy, but SO worth it. You get out of it what you put in. A third group would put me over the edge.
Yep, two is very manageable for most but past that, it gets really hard to find the time to put toward it.
I think one of my favorite parts of going on blog hiatus was getting to drop out of all of the FB groups that I’d been jumping into.
I definitely found some value along the way and got answers to questions. But at the end of the day, it was a lot of post promotion (for myself as well) clogging up my feed rather than providing anything truly helpful.
I’m getting ready to dive back into the blog pond, and I’m not sure if I’m going to rejoin groups this time around or not. I’m curious to see what other feedback you get here about them. So torn.
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That is definitely an upside of a blog hiatus! When I find myself invited to new groups, I now ask the admin up front what the purpose and objectives of the group is. If it doesn’t align with something that I want to participate in, I politely decline and explain why. People so far have been really understanding about it, and I’m appreciative of that!
I am part of 6 groups on Facebook but one is for the weight loss program I’m part of (Cinch) and the other is a weight loss group with a bunch of bloggers. The others are blogging related.
I try to participate in all of them daily… at least to check up and see what’s new. While others I am always interacting in.
I like them and have learned a great deal from them all, but I can also see how they can get annoying.
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I have 3 I check regularly and the others I don’t. I can’t seem to manage more than that!!!
Love this. I’m in 2 FB blogging groups, one for Austin Bloggers and one for Texas Bloggers. Our Austin group is pretty tight knot, although it’s grown by leaps and bounds. We’ve hit some snags and overcome them thanks to the fact that we work really well together and have strong admins. I love that group. The Texas group however seems like a waste of my time. Too many people that I really don’t have a connection with. A LOT of coupon/review/giveaway bloggers that I don’t relate to, and not very many writers. It seems to be all about sponsorships and “enter my giveaway!” So I don’t find as much value in that one.
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I think I eventually got to a point where my saying yes to all the groups overwhelmed me, and I was not really connecting with the people. As you said, if you can connect and have mutual benefit from them, they’re great. I’ve started to give myself permission to tell myself: it’s okay if not every group works for me and it’s ok to back out of those that I’m neither getting value from, nor adding value to.
I’m in a few, and I think they all function a little differently. I love one of them and think the people involved understand the goal of the group and promote accordingly. I’m in a couple (looks around furtively) where I interact warily and don’t know if I’ve seen the value in them yet. I agree that I begin to tune out if the same couple people are posting every single thing they write. I try to self-promote in the groups according to the people in the group if that makes sense. Not every “group” has the same level of interest in my various posts.
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I am in a few groups…and honestly I don’t participate in any of them all that much. I have so much on my plate that it is hard to check all of them…all of the time. If I really think about it, I only check 1 or 2 daily. I guess that should indicate something!!
I agree with you Gigi…it’s so hard to say no…but I like how you are now posing the question before hand.
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I just went in and looked/reassessed my groups… and ended up leaving a couple of them. Mostly because of your point whether I honestly believe they are really “worth” it for me.
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I’m in a Jewish bloggers one that I find very valuable and there are some great conversations. But there are also some sales pitches and some over-promotion. It might be getting too big actually.
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I was JUST talking to my husband about this. Once a group gets biggish (over 30 people), I tend to quit caring…or leave (really, both). It just gets to spammy feeling.
Right now I am part of five. Two of which I don’t really need to be in, but I feel like it would be awkward if I left. One is for a site where I write, so it’s good for bouncing article ideas, talking about current events, and giving props to each other for great posts. We don’t share from our personal blogs at all.
The other two are tiny and pretty much just for blog-support/life-support stuff. Those are nice because everyone is from a different place and it seems as if it was picked that way by the admin.
Recently I cleaned house because I was part of like 10 and at least half of them I had stopped going to because they were either full of whiners or total spam (or both…ack!).
Frickin’ facebook.
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Oh boy, where do I start. Welll, first of all, if I even thought I would get 20 retweets, I would share my post for sure. However, as narcissistic as I am, I just can’t bring myself to do that. I belong to three secret groups. One if for the online women’s network that I write for, so I go on there to see what the editor needs of us. But the other is a Manitoba Mommy Bloggers, and I swear, these ladies are all making oodles of cash working for brands, and I feel like I’m the “vagina” lady. It’s like high school all over again where I’m the one with the slutty reputation and no job!
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Every one have different thoughts on it but i think this is nice platform to share and gain those kind of things which can prove good for you and for your business as well.
I’m trying to figure out why
Gigi: Comment love isn’t working for me. It says invalid character Atkins 191, column 35. Help me, Obi Wan. This has been an issue at Nina’s, too.
What did I do to anger the commentluv goddesses? Was it my disdain for FB?
Can you advise?
It’s not working on my site or yours???
Gigi,
I love that you wrote about this. Leigh Ann is spot on with saying our Austin Bloggers group (that you helped start) has had some growing pains. We have over 160 bloggers now, geesh!
I could not agree more about having some discretion on sharing and posting. I am pretty much done with this group because there continues to be certain individuals that can not or will not follow guidelines and are flat out disrespectful.
When we originally started that group it had a purpose and everyone was on board. I personally feel there is NO WAY with a group this large can the Admin. EVER get control again.
Makes me sad, but oh well.
Miss you!
Another helpful post! Just found you and read a few posts. Question for you: How do you get invited to these illusive facebook groups? The only ones I have seen are some scammy looking ones that seem really shady. I would love to join a real group!
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Usually a fellow blogging friend will invite you. Tap into the networks that you have within blogging and see if any of your friends are members of FB groups and ask for an invite!